As the title says, you NEED to go read this guy’s book if you were ever unsure about who he is as a person and if he is progressive. I started reading this yesterday and am almost a third of the way through already. The way he explains markets and economics and how they can be utilized to fight climate change and our biggest issues is fascinating.
So far I can see that this man is legit and he wants to see Canada leading the world economically and morally. We have a golden opportunity here and any fiscal conservative should see this guy as the number one guy for the job. We had our time with Trudeau laying the foundation for a lot of social justice for the next quarter century, and now Carney is here to focus more on the economy and scale it to make us a global super power. Never before have I found economics so interesting and this book of his is really opening my eyes about the history and functions of markets.
Ok, off I go to continue!
I mean, there was never a question of if I’d prefer Trump-lite, regardless of how lite exactly. Thanks for giving the TL;DR, though!
In his debates and speeches he’s seemed neither like a pushover nor overconfident. His record makes it clear he’s not stupid. Some of his policy ideas are creative and interesting. I have no further negative information, and the worst his opponents can find is that he’s been involved with for-profit businesses that weren’t even particularly ruthless. I don’t know what he’s like away from the cameras, but that’s par for the course in politics until it leaks out.
His book does a great job at explaining economics and how they work. As we look forward to expanding trade and beefing up our own infrastructure to reach other markets and expancld domestically, Carney has this exactbtype of mind to handle it while also championing progressive causes like climate change and helping turning them to profitable endeavours! Truely fascinating read and even if you could get an audiobook I highly recommend
I haven’t read it (may try to) but I’ve been pretty impressed by the way he describes the importance of harnessing markets to address climate change. (I’m of much the same opinion, markets are amazing but require government to address imbalances/incentives and straight up market failures like public goods etc.)
Yes! This is what was so fascinating to me. He explains this very well and how we can make it profitable to advance our goals and be sustainable about it. Hence why he says that getting rid of the industrial carbon tax is a terrible idea because the EU requires it’s trading partners to have some kind of carbon price in place to avoid tariffs. Pierre and the other conservatives in this country are showing their true colours to how much they are posing as “economic” minds
Absolutely agree especially on the industrial carbon tax. I hope he slaps Polievre around with it during the debate, as not having one would yoke us even closer to the States as opposed to our friends in the EU. It’s typical Polievre sloganneering instead of actually thinking through the consequences.
Ouuuu that’s genius! He really should say that us cancelling the industrial pricing on carbon would make us closer to the USA. That would take wind out of his sails lol
I have to think that’s why Carney hasn’t brought it up yet. If I were managing his campaign, I would be so excited about the opportunity to let Canada watch him encounter the reality of his position live.
Superpower? Alright no need to chug the Kool aid this hard, let’s wait until you find a chapter where he wants to develop a nuclear triad.
He’s a traditional liberal which means not all that progressive beyond what’s popular socially. Good for the wealthy fiscally, and maintained decline for everyone else. If you want to see what it’ll be, look at the UK while he was heading up BoE. Or any Canadian Liberal government through the 90s-00s.
Despite all this he and his party obviously remain the superior choice to PP, but let’s not kid ourselves. He’s not going to neolib us into utopia.
I’ll take another four years of neolib liberal assholes fucking us, but only because of the Americans threatening to make us part of America and seeing the con candidates be all hot and horny for helping them. I fucking hate strategic voting but I’ll do it before letting burgerlanders control us.
Hey, happy cake day. Here’s hoping we get proportional rep eventually.
I mean I’d love that. I feel like it’s not asking a lot at this point.
I hate it too. But goddamn we will be so much better off with the liberals at the helm then the conservatives. They are actively ruining their image for decades to come with all this bullshit and being similar to the USA conservatives (who are batshit insane). And with the conservatives coming out guns blazing with tax cuts, spening promises and protecting all the programs the liberals and NDP put into place (dental, pharma and childcare) when they voted hard against it…
Yeah, I mean I’ll do it, but I’m going to fucking complain the entire time.
As you and the rest of us should to any politician. The most important thing about not voting for Pierre is that he has openly stated that he is not against using the not withstanding clause nationally just like the other conservative premiers across the country. For shit that isn’t a national emergency at all
I wish our citizens understood the practicality of this. Unfortunately we either have conservative assholes or idiot leftists both which seem to hate Democrats more than they care about making their own lives better or the lives of others better.
lol the democrats have zero interest in making your lives better.
L take lol
He’s a traditional liberal which means not all that progressive beyond what’s popular socially.
TBF popularity is definitional for winning an election. If you want to move what’s acceptable you don’t primarily do that by voting.
He was governor of the BoE during Brexit… There really isn’t much you can do as a governor of the national bank in such stupidity. And Canada can absolutely be a super power, our landmass, resources and technical know-how can allow us to prosper and lead on the global stage. Canada is a great example of a country of the future, where we don’t rely on wars to settle differences. Carney supports childcare, dental care, boosting the GIS for seniors, pharma care, and everything the liberals did under trudeau minus the consumer carbon tax. And he’s replacing it.
Canada doesn’t need nuclear weapons, does Iraq ring a bell to you how the USA straight up invaded and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people because of “rumors” of WMDs? And the weakest Intel? That kind of talk can gtfo
Canada doesn’t need nuclear weapons, does Iraq ring a bell to you how the USA straight up invaded and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people because of “rumors” of WMDs? And the weakest Intel? That kind of talk can gtfo
The lesson of Iraq is not develop no nukes or the USA might invade you. The lesson of Iraq is that even if you definitely don’t have any WMDs the US might lie about it anyways and justify invading you with the lie.
That being said, I think there’s still an argument not to do proliferation even if it would be easier to.
This seems completely uncritical of Carney and Canada for that matter. The future isn’t going to be lead without force because a middle power elects a prime minister with some good ideas about markets.
We don’t need to rely on wars? We rely on exploitation even without it- ask any country where our mining firms operate with lax regulation. Hell, we’ve participated in “coalitions of the willing” in invasions and aerial bombings for corporate giants too. Most of this country is content to think the first Nations just decided to give us the land.
I’m happy to vote for more years of basically Trudeau lite and I have no illusions about it.
Exactly! We can all see the lesser of two evils, but why lie to ourselves about the reality of the situation just to make our vote feel better? Glorifying Carney and the libs only serves to make the NDP seem even less likely to win if we just pretend that Carney will save the markets AND the planet, AND Canada as a country….Maybe let’s just be objective about who he is and what our country stands for. There’s a reason we’re seen as the US’s little brother and it’s not completely unwarranted.
He was governor of the BoE during Brexit… There really isn’t much you can do as a governor of the national bank in such stupidity.
It’s kind of interesting he hasn’t paid for that in any way, as far as I can tell. In a different election you might see people painting him as a supporter or at least an enabler of it.
That would be so fucking whack since the governor of a national bank is apolitical. They do not and should not comment on political matters and only focus on tuning the countries fiscal mechanisms in response to political decisions. That’s why Pierre yapping about “firing” the governor of our bank is a big no no for me. The financial levers of your country should never be politicised or influences by politics because that how you get Zimbabwe dollars.
Governor of a national bank is absolutely not apolitical. Stephen Harper or the British Conservatives weren’t going to appoint a Marxian economist to the position no matter what kind of resume they might have. Their appointees are going to be politically copacetic.
Buddy, all I’m saying is that a governor of a national bank SHOULDNT be influenced by politicians. It’s not that deep
And what I’m saying is that the governor is a politician. Economics isn’t a science like physics is a science. Their decisions are going to be coloured by their ideology.
The governor of a national bank is simply not a politician… They are appointed by a politician, yes. But they aren’t voted in… And to say that economics isn’t a science is… Fucking bold buddy. Gotta lay off the fent and brocasts
Yeah, a lot about political discourse is fucking whack. It has been especially bad lately, although TBH there wasn’t a period in history where it was great.
can absolutely be a super power, our landmass, resources and technical know-how can allow us to prosper and lead on the global stage
I mean, sure we “can”, just like many others can like Argentina or Norway… but this superpower thing is a bit tired. Let’s just worry about not being pushed around instead of aiming for pushing others around - because that’s what being a superpower means, really.
Carney is very obviously the lesser of two evils this election but I don’t understand why Canadians are glorifying this guy. We don’t have to glorify him just because he’s better than PP and we are allowed (and should be encouraged) to say that.
At the end of the day he’s a fiscal neo-lib who maintains the status quos but with socially approachable politics (as another commenter mentioned). Nothing is changing and we’ll still miss environmental targets and additional, meaningful promises (remember the libs promised clean drinking water on all reservations??).
Just like the promise not to arm Israel, which the CURRENT government (including Carney) are actively breaking and not addressing. Article: https://www.readthemaple.com/the-liberals-are-dodging-questions-about-a-new-israeli-arms-contract
I can see from the link you posted (Indigo) that you do not avoid brands that support Israel or are listed on BDS materials, but Canadians (still!) deserve better and can do better. Not just better for the environment, but for social services, and at minimum, maybe we can stop supporting the bombing of Palestinian children, schools, and basic infrastructure.
And yet, even a bar this low has been tripped over by the Liberals.
Is Israel the question or topic here? And if it is was how did punishing Harris work out for the Palestinians. To punish Harris they elected a guy who cheers the bombings and wants more of it.
Life might not be fair but Some times the lesser of 2 evils is the best you get.
Why not be like america and plow your whole country into the ocean because Biden and Harris didn’t end 60 years of middle east foreign policy?
We are all having fun on this side of the border.
Just like I said in my other comment, Carney is very obviously the lesser of two evils, but we can all be a lot more objective and realistic about him and his policies. Just like Trudeau didn’t revolutionize the Libera party, I don’t think Carney will either. Again, PP is just abhorrent.
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Clearly you’ve read his book🙄
