• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    My fucking guy I don’t really know what you think the Israeli far-right trying to push 2 million people out of Gaza for lebensraum is if not at least Nazi-adjacent.

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      6 months ago

      I severely doubt that Bibi said the word Lebensraum. But whatever. Give me the quote. When did he say he was invoking Lebensraum (or a similar concept) over the Gaza citizens?

      Or are you just making shit up because you don’t know what these words mean? For fucks sake, the settler issue is in the West Bank, not Gaza, or did you get confused over the actual politics over the region?

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        6 months ago

        Out of curiosity, how do you think people ended up concentrated in Gaza, one of the most population dense cities in the world? You think they all decided to move out of their ancestral homes to a city where they don’t control their own power, sky, water, food intake, trade, trash, or sea? The settler issue is everywhere in Israel and Palestine because the history of settler colonialism in the region is the only reason we have the issues we have now.

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          Because 1917 Balfour Declaration was a shitty set of lines drawn by the British during WW1. The Ottomans were a great power back then, and one of the only world powers that was predominantly Muslim.

          The Jews didn’t really migrate to the area until 1947, where after the horrors of the Holocaust were made evident, the British gave the land to Israel formally (some migration occurred during the post WW1 period but the bulk was post-WW2.) EDIT: I recognize that historically, some Hebrews have always lived there as it is also their ancestral homes… but the “bulk” came from Europe and other countries.

          Naturally, the historic Muslim communities were pissed at this development and there was a period of minor war until 1967, wherein the current borders have basically settled.

          The violence never stopped. The most recent developments was the rise of Hamas, whose goals are to genocide Israel and wipe them from ‘The River to the Sea’. Bibi and the far-right Israelis took advantage of this politically as a scapegoat, but Hamas took Bibi and the Israeli far right as a scapegoat as well.

          Hamas wins the last Gaza election, taking power in the early 00s. Israeli offers aid (water, food, fuel, electricity) but it turns out that Hamas has been taking the pipes for water and turning them into weapons. Hamas has also been stealing food and fuel to feed their war machine.

          Ultimately, this population crisis is largely homegrown. The bulk of Gaza citizens are under 18, proof that it was the pro-birth policies under the Hamas regime that has made the bulk of this population issue.

          Need I continue or is this already known by you?

            • This person is like:

              “half the population being below 18 means that they breed like rabbits, and not st all that Israel is bombing a million child (in the literal sense of the word)”.

              This person may be genuine to themselves but I fail to take them seriously.