• dragontamer@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    What the nazis are most known for is being racist

    Ummmmm.

    You know the USA had a segregated army and literal internment camps holding Japanese “traitors” around our country, right? We literally can’t hate on the Nazis for being racist because we did that shit.

    USA didn’t get rid of segregation for at least 3 decades after the WW2 era. My Dad grew up in the segregated south: Virginia in the 1970s. I think you’re underestimating how much racist culture is still around here.


    What is taught in American schools is that the Nazis tried to kill all the Jews. Its not wrong, but its a big emphasis on Judeo-Christian culture and the mainstream of American thought. You’re not going to get the typical American to think that Israel is Nazi, you’re just not.

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      You’d be surprised to learn that the concept of lebensraum was derived from “manifest destiny” and learned a lot of their pre-Holocaust oppression from the US.

      We literally can’t hate on the Nazis for being racist because we did that shit.

      Yes, we literally can. Racism is always bad. It’s bad in the US, it was bad in Nazi Germany, it was bad in South Africa, and it’s bad in Israel. People are capable of extrapolating beyond the group being oppressed to recognize when a comparable group is receiving a comparable type of oppression. In this case, Israel is committed to a genocide comparable to the Holocaust.

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        I think I can agree that removal of racism and all that would be nice, and we’re entering a political reality where this is possible. But you’re asking for something more: for Americans to understand your weird-ass argument about calling the Israeli government a Nazi regime.

        Which will not work. That’s the core crux of this issue. Its an entirely insane argument by American standards. As I said earlier: the left has made a ton of rallying cries over the past decade. Some worked, some (like “Defund the Police”) utterly failed and instead made Republicans stronger. If this “The Jewish state of Israel is Nazi” argument actually reaches meme status, you’ll destroy the credibility of the left.