Reddit enrages users again by ditching thank-you coins and awards::Reddit, which is still dealing with the fallout from its last controversial decision, said it plans to phase out coins and awards.
Honestly the whole reddit protest was really good for me. I stopped spending so much time online, I only open lemmy occasionally too. Overall goodness for the planet
What do you do for the planet instead of browsing Reddit man. :D serious question!p
I’ve been working on switching careers for the last six or so months. Made a lot more progress after the protests and have a final interview on Thursday. Please send prayers and/or good vibes my way. Switching from Marketing to Cybersecurity. One less talented marketing person makes the world a little less cluttered with people buying shit they don’t need.
Besides that specifically since the protests started I’ve been researching and thinking about learning to play piano. It’s amazing how much time I wasted scrolling endlessly on Reddit.
That sounds awesome. :D But how can someone moves from marketing to cyber security. I mean, it’s a completely different thing.
Music instrument learning is fun! Glad that now you can utilize your time better.
Cybersecurity and Penetration Testing/Hacking is more skill based than most industries. It’s just a matter of learning the tools and getting good at it.
I think its supposed to mean that since they are spending less time they are more active outside of just the reddit focus and if they are doing it others will be doing similar. Less of a “good for the environment” and more of a “good for the group of people who quit”.
Reddit has gone to the crapper. It’s not just banning 3rd party apps, it’s not just ditching awards, all of these wildly unpopular decisions have left a permanent scar on the user base and it shows. Now, all of the top posts on r/popular are garbage nonsense like “unpopular opinion: the far left and far right are both just as bad as each other” or “im a horse girl rate me”. Sad times.
did they just… k kk kill a source of… i in income!!!
I think that reddit’s “going public” guru squad doesn’t want redditors to be able to have any control on what content is pushed to the top of the queue. That is just a guess, though.
Then why don’t they just alter the algorithm or remove any coin-related influence? The average redditor does not care/know that gilded posts reach the top.
Because it causes engineering overhead that perhaps no one there wants to do. And when reddit gets its IPO it will no longer give a hoot and an half about the “average redditor” because profit suddenly becomes the only thing that matters to shareholderds.
What I am saying is that the visibility that coins make is prolly not inline with the people that want to use reddit to push products, shows, and ideologies for profit.
It is just about control.
Upvote/downvote counts to be hidden next
They’re already manipulated and dont show a true total, Reddit stops counting if they want to.
That is a good point.
“We will continue pursuing profit until we are profitable”
-some dumbass
That’s the CEO lmao, the CEO is the dumbass.
They have something worse up their sleeves
I can see it coming:
“Users can now reward content with NFTs of bored reddit aliens”
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Finally the karma store is real!
That stuff also costs next to nothing to maintain. Thus proving that spez is even more stupid than we already thought. Now he’s just getting downright hitleresque, a comic book villain lmao
Please don’t dilute Hitler by referencing him for something as trivial as removing gold awards.
One sent millions to the gas chamber with the specific goal of committing actual genocide. The other? No longer lets you waste money to bro-5 a meme post. Be better.
I’ll use any references I like, it’s a free country
You want to look like an idiot, be my guest.
And if you want to continue to monitor the internet policing, looking for ways to virtue signal while looking like an idiot, please continue.
Giving someone a reward gives them some Reddit premium, including coins they can spend. Wouldn’t be surprised if they relaunch it, in a way where everyone loses
I got a message saying I apparently have premium and/or coins, and to use them before they expire.
But, even before the Reddit plague I had no way of even knowing that, because I used old Reddit and RiF.
Anyway, my point is that this change only affects official Reddit app users, and new Reddit users.
So Reddit found a way to take stuff away from the users who weren’t directly affected by the third-party app shutdowns.
It’s a genius way to make sure everyone is pissed off all at once.
Exactly, I liked getting free premium sometimes. One of the very few, possibly only things I’d see in my inbox and feel happy about.
Oh, an award? On what comment? That one! Who gave it to me? Let’s thank them! Oh, free premium for a month? Awesome!
Funny they’d do away with them bc those were almost the only things in the inbox that brought joy. All of the rest was:
1: you have been permanently banned from participating in r/Everything-Ever because you made an innocuous comment on a sub that differs from our ideology. You can appeal this but we’ll probably just ignore your Nazi ass.
2: Reply from u/NothingBetterToComplainAbout: “Um, okay, so you said that you “Spazzed out”. Glad you’ve outed yourself as an ableist prick that hates people with epilepsy!”
3: Reply from u/Sensitive: “What a fatphobic fuck you are. Completely ignoring that the majority of obese people are that way due to genetic factors? It has NOTHING to do with diet or exercise and they were born this way!”
4: Reply from u/beatingAdeadHorse on AITA: Bruh, she had NO obligation to call an ambulance when her mother was having a heart attack. I don’t care if she did beg for help, that doesn’t magically bestow responsibility! (Clap) NO (CLAP) ONE (CLAP) HAS (CLAP) ANY OBLIGATION (CLAP!) TO HELP (CLAP!) ANYONE ELSE!! (CLAP!)
5: Reply from u/Political in r/politics: Apolitical? Ha, cought you undercover Nazi. No one is apolitical.
6: Message from r/MoreSubs: You have been permanently banned for saying the following: “Can straight men really be lesbians? That makes no sense?” - Note from moderation team: Delete yourself, anyone can be anything they say they are and you must allow your reality to be shaped by their imagination. It’s not enough to call them by their preferred pronouns, you must accept it and believe it deep down in your heart, you vile piece of elephant shit we’ll know if you’re lying.
7: AWARD ENCLOSED: Someone has liked your comment so much that they’ve given it the “BEST COMMENT THROUGHOUT ETERNITY!” Award. This comment was handpicked by Jesus Christ himself as his favorite, which means, YOU are his favorite! Yes, this is literal confirmation that Jesus Loves you and you have been pre-accepted into heaven for an eternity of bliss! ALSO: You get one free month of Reddit premium, AD FREE! AND 750 coins of which you can use to pass on the blessings!
Message from award-giver: This is Jesus Christ, I love you my son. I have seen the woes in your inbox and admire your good works in spreading the message of God around Reddit. I can’t wait to see you in heaven, my son, until then I will always be watching but don’t worry, I’ve already accepted you into heaven so you won’t fail and go to hell no matter what!
8: YOU PUECE YX ASSHOLE I HTE U!
Yeah, while my politics are typically fairly in line with the average Reddit user, I have little tolerance for bandwagoning or purposely misconstruing the opposition, so I always tried to emphasize that “while I totally agree with X, we shouldn’t pretend that there’s some huge outcry for Y or that Z is actually illegal anywhere in the US.” Usually didn’t matter, and I got banned anyway.
But I guess when your identity is super wrapped up in being online and a mod, you need to feel like you got a win against the evils of the world.
They’re incompetent but I’m confident they’re at least going to put out some dumb replacement system ready by the time they have that karma to cash system.
Introducing the Reddit Battlepass! Post 100 times for this month’s golden Snoo! Skip a tier every day by clicking 50 ads! Now only $19.99!
Seems like spez is an uncorrigible idiot.
Keep it up Reddit! Push more people away! Lemmy devs watching all the Reddit refugees (I’m one): o.O
When the API changes were announced, for the first time I started thinking I should leave reddit. This coin thing was just kicking me while I was down. Ok, they want to get rid of awards for a new system. But you also want to remove them from past posts?? And you’re not going to convert coin balances into anything?
Those are the things a company that has no regard for it’s users does.
They learned from the best: Google. The number of times Google had suddenly killed some YouTube feature that the community had collectively sunk millions of hours into is infuriating. Community-made subtitles are the most recent one.
Honestly I can’t wait for the downfall of reddit. They seem to be constantly pushing away and annoying their users.
For me, I don’t much care. I stopped visiting Reddit when my app was shut down. I find my information and make my contributions elsewhere now.
I did the same. I used Boost (which is working on a Lemmy app currently) and it somehow lasted 7 days longer, but as soon as it stopped working I deleted reddit.
That’s a stupid one though. Why would you get enraged at something that was only made to make profit for the reddit guys? There’s no real value on reddit coins or awards, it’s just a jpg or gif for somebody’s comment or post.
If anything, it’s funny that they removed an easy cash grab they had.
they’re gonna replace it by a larger cash grab anyways
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It’s probably gonna turn subscription based. As in, you have to subscribe to not only send Thank-Yous but also receive them. What Reddit wants are paying customers for their IPO, not “users”.
I dunno. On the one hand, it was an obvious move by the admins to distract users from the protests and exodus. On the other hand… it kinda worked? I dunno what purpose or angle this BizIn article has either.
I just dumped all my old coins onto comments encouraging people to do chargebacks for any year-long Premium subscriptions since they’re in material breach.
Can you elaborate, I’m not quite sure i understand?
So when a charge is made against a credit card, you have the option to do a “chargeback” - this is meant to be used for fraud. In this case, the argument is that Reddit fraudulently changed the terms of the program after people had already paid - being in “material breach” means they made a binding promise to provide a thing and they failed to do so. Chargebacks are really, really bad for a vendor. They lose the money, and they get a penalty fee, AND if it keeps happening the credit card processor can crank up their overall fees or even drop them as a bad customer.
Are they really in material beach since the agreement you agreed to by giving them money basically says “coins have no value and we can delete them at any time we want”?
I mean, I hate Reddit as much as the next guy here but that sounds a bit like doing a charge back because you didn’t win on the slot machine you just pulled.
EULAs are not legally binding and any court and credit card company on the planet would accept that you had a reasonable belief that you would be provided the services that were offered when you paid for Reddit Premium.
Are you sure this would be considered an EULA and not a TOS?
I haven’t visited reddit since boost stopped working a few days after the API change. Filled the void mostly with twitter. Don’t miss it at all.
the moment boost for lemmy launches. bye bye reddit.
You stayed on Reddit after boost stopped? I just couldn’t force myself to use that shitty app. Not judging there are things I would definitely like to use it for but can’t stand that app.
You can patch boost to work again with Android 10+ though there’s a tutorial somewhere thinking of using that for things I can’t yet find here
yeah, im just soldiering on. the official app is a shitfest though and i hate it.
Not only is it a shit fest but I’ve noticed that now they’ve taken one out of Twitter and Facebook’s playbook and on mobile all search result content just directs me to download the app which is really irritating. I refuse to even download that shitty app.
Fortunately on mobile I was able to open desktop version to read an old article I needed but on computer iirc I couldn’t get it to display anything even though I was already on the desktop version.
Every change they’re making is pissing off the user base, spez must be wanting to clean it up and sell to advertisers ir something
Read-only (without nsfw) still works in RiF, I open that from Google searches or I’ll go to the website, when I’m looking for specific things. But other than that it’s been all Lemmy for me since late June.
Liftoff is a descent replacement till boost comes alive for lemmy…i won’t ever give another login to re**it
Glad to see my fellow boost people around. Also haven’t visited reddit since boost stopped working. The boost app can be patched to work but… I’m just sick of Reddit and don’t want to support it. Can’t wait for Boost for Lemmy! Jerboa is great but miss my boost
Have you tried mastodon?
Fun fact: you can view and post lemmy posts from mastodon
Lemmy is basically an implementation of mastodon, I thought? I prefer Nostr because it is more censorship resistant but the community isn’t quite there yet.
Specifically it is an implementation of something known as activitypub, which connects the entire fediverse, services from mastodon and akkoma to pixefed and peertube to lemmy and kbin
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As someone who would never pay for reddit coins or premium, it’s still pretty easy to identify with them.
They paid for a product and now it’s being removed with no compensation or refund. That’s total bullshit regardless of what the product was.
sounds like an easy chargeback claim if that’s the case, “service not rendered/doesn’t exist anymore” might lose the acct out of it but who really cares at this point
It’s hard for me to identify with them because it’s just not very smart to pay money for that kind of crap. I don’t buy stuff that can be taken away like that. It is true that nothing lasts forever, but digital doo-dads only last as long as the web site you bought them on. I hope they learned their lesson. I doubt they did. People pay for this stuff every day on web sites. Cosmetic stuff for avatars, special edition avatars, little award thingies, blah blah blah. It’s all a waste. It’s very easy for people to say, “eh, it’s only a dollar” or “eh, it’s only 50 cents” or “meh, it’s only 5 bucks” but if you repeatedly spend money on those things it adds up. So, do I feel bad for these outraged people? No, I don’t. They should smarten up and stop wasting money.
Especially taking things away from people who prepaid for those things
People that are wasteful enough to prepay for that kind of nonsense sort of have it coming to them. Still, I agree that it’s not nice to do that. However, I have more important things to worry about.
Sometimes prepaying is the more frugal option, since there’s usually a discount for buying in bulk. As of January of this year, I wouldn’t have believed you if you had told me that Reddit was going to do something so egregious that I would permanently stop browsing there.
Any kind of paying for this kind of junk, whether it’s prepay or not, is a waste of money and people should just stop doing it. There are far better things to do with money than to buy some digital thing-a-ma-bob that is useless and can disappear any old time at the whim of the web site owner. I mean, I could make the same argument about knickknacks, because they’re silly and collect dust. However, a web site can’t remove them from your house. So, even a knickknack that collects dust is a better purchase than digital coins and awards and all that other bullshit.
I can’t identify with giving reddit money but I can sympathize with people who were saving monthly coins they paid for. Seriously, it has to be deliberate now. Why piss off your most loyal, paying customers? Is it a test?
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i used coins basically as a bookmark feature for great posts; it was nice to give a treat to a good poster as well. so incredibly stupid they’re destroying the site like this
I hated the “coin culture” with a passion (hey, look, it’s Bill Gates, let’s give him tons of paid emoticons he won’t care about!), but it’s clear this move is part of Reddit’s further enshittification. You can bet whatever replaces coins will be even shittier, and I think Reddit’s users know it.
My bet? NFTs.
reddit does have a rather thriving nft market for avatars
Surely this isn’t true.
It unfortunately is. If it’s still alive, that is.
Yea I think the outrage is or should be directed at removing the already given awards. Just to go and wipe everything is not a great idea
Especially gold. The other awards were arguably bloat, but gold was iconic to reddit. All those classic posts now missing their gold seems wrong.
they just want to become as generic as possible lol. “Let’s see how much fun we can drain from the lives of our zombies”
Lemmy should make its own awards.
Award #1 – Blackjack
Aware #2 – Hookers
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I like to give out Lemmy Lemons 🍋
I enjoy that they’re meaningless and if people find them obnoxious they can just downvote them.
In fact forget the awards
🏅
What would be pretty awesome is if Lemmy implemented an optional awards feature that could accept donations into a tip jar of some sort. Many of us running smaller instances appreciate selfless donations, but this could be a decent way to make supporting hosting costs more fun.
instance based awards only though, as of would be hard to control award manipulation from private lemmy servers thay are federated
Make awards not actually do anything other than be a tip for the server hoster like Reddit gold used to be. Now which server owner it should go to is another question.
laughs in Lemmy/Kbin
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Even if it’s not a source of revenue, why would they get rid of it?
I liked the idea more than advertising to be honest. But it felt weird voluntarily giving them money while they were using ads too. Ever since I cancelled my last cable tv in the mid 2000s I refuse to pay for anything with ads.
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