Summary
“American Pie” actress Jasmine Mooney, a Canadian citizen, was detained by ICE while attempting to renew her work visa at the U.S.-Mexico border on March 3.
She described the experience as a “deeply disturbing psychological experiment,” including sleeping on a mat with “aluminum foil wrapped over my body like a dead body,” being transported in chains, and receiving inedible food.
Officials allegedly told her she was “unprofessional because I didn’t have a proper letterhead” on her paperwork.
After her release, Mooney credited media attention and her support network for securing her freedom.
Bunch of barbarians.
They prefer americans
I think it’s spelled “Murican”
That’s terrible, but let’s be real. The only reason why this is news is because she’s a white woman.
Maybe some people will start to care more now that it’s happening to celebrities
When it comes to the people that still don’t care, I figure they won’t care until it happens to them directly.
I think maybe they care when the person is white
I don’t know if I’d call her a ‘celebrity’
She was in “American Pie, the book of love.” The 9th movie in the Pie series and direct to dvd.
Though she’s getting a lot of attention now, and if hawk tuah girl can become a millionaire off a sloppy bj, good luck to Jasmine!
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People should be disturbed that this is happening to ANY human being. Not just celebrities.
They should, but anecdotes featuring a person you somehow know beyond the specific situation are more potent.
they should, yes. they SHOULD have cared back in 2016. maybe they will now.
But the average dumbass will care more about celebrities.
But the average dumbass
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She spent 11 days detained.
“I was put in a cell, and I had to sleep on a mat with no blanket, no pillow, with an aluminum foil wrapped over my body like a dead body for two and a half days,” […] “I have never in my life seen anything so inhumane.” She went on to describe one incident when she and 30 other women were moved in the middle of the night to a facility in Arizona. During the ordeal, she was forced to be “up for 24 hours wrapped in chains.”
From CBC.CA (Eagles is her mother’s surname):
Eagles said the detainees at the San Luis facility have no sleeping mats or blankets or windows, and the lights are on all day and night.
Jesus Christ, they already tried that shit with the lights in Trump I and the 9th circuit told them to fucking stop it. I distinctly remember because one of the judges was in a Japanese internment camp as a kid, and he ate that dipshit Trump attorney alive.
And yet, here we are again.
Christ with a bejeweled handbag, does somebody have a link to the juicy transcript?
I hate the fucking title of this video so fucking much it pains me to share it, but this is really the best cut, IMO. There’s also the full hour version on YouTube if you search “9th circuit Sarah Fabian”.
Enjoy!
I have been literally dragged away and locked in a cage overnight for being a miniscule fraction as evasive dishonest and disrespectful as this piece of shit nazi scum was to a judge. these people are at fault for not just locking this bitch up-and for bonus karma, doing it in conditions it defines are okay.
treating nazis with kid gloves is how we got here.
Holy fuck this is painful
Yeah. Imo, extra painful because you can tell that she knows what she’s arguing for is wrong. Not only does she know she should be ashamed, on some level, deep down in there, she is ashamed, and she’s there arguing for it anyway.
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The name SARAH FABIAN is now tarnished FOREVER. Just doing your job hu? Well… karma will surely do its job. You can NOT defend that which is undefendable and expect to get away with it. I’ve met DOGS with a MUCH HIGHER Moral Standard than you. What an embarrassment to humanity. Sickening.
One of the comments on that YouTube video link. Her name will forever go down as filth and disgust. To argue over toothbrush, toothpaste and a warm blanket is wild!
if you work in a restaurant law enforcement eat at, I think it’s safe to completely forget about food safety. food safety regulations have never been as big a deal as anti torture laws. really just have fun with it, you know?
On the other hand, if you have undocumented people working at that restaurant, best not to draw any unneeded attention to the staff by law enforcement.
I think it’s always better if you don’t get caught.
the politics get complicated, of course, but managing risk and the micropolitics of balancing compliance/resistance are too situational to make blanket statements about online.
but there might be a value to giving them food poisoning so they don’t eat there anymore. there might be value in keeping them there. I dunno. I’d err on the side of offense; they don’t have loyalty, and their proximity means you might just be the one they lash out at if they have a bad day, but I can see the argument the other way.
WTF
Edit: Americans need to be on the street for this shit and everything else that’s happening
I don’t care how, just get that dictator out of there
I mean, no. this is several steps past when americans needed to be on the streets. this is the point where we should be getting off the streets, because there’s not enough cover there.
Those are some psychological mind games right there
It’s called torture.
The family’s using her traumatic experience to publicize the inhumane conditions at those 3 detention centres, and raise awareness for her cellmates. They talk about constant lighting (torture), being moved at 3am to a different state (fucking with your lawyer), being chained and overcrowded.
“There’s 30 other people in her cell that have not even been spoken to by a detention caseworker. So there are people in there whose families don’t know where their kids are.” - Jasmine’s father, Stephen Mooney, speaking on March 13th.
These conditions should be common knowledge, and this traumatized family is doing what they can on that front.
You and I are not more safe than she is. Our neighbours are not more safe than she is. Her escape does not make her the enemy of her cellmates. We’re all Venezuelan gang members (or whoever it’s ok to fuck with) if they take our papers and deem us so.
and if people don’t think political dissidents are on the list, they’re delusional. we may not be the priority yet, but they’re checking off demographics at an alarming rate.
but they’re checking off demographics at an alarming rate.
yeah those two arab protestor students that are getting deported- they’re essentially getting detained and eventually removed because they spoke out against Israel. it’s an attempt to put a damper on speech for the whole country. sort of sending a message to immigrants- you better watch what you’re saying or we will get you
Reminds me of that shitstain Beria from Death of Stalin
“I have lists on all of you!”
Are these the privately owned detention centers? All I can say the USA has several Dachau’s and it could become worse.
Vast majority of immigration detention centers are privately owned
It’s a sharp contrast to private prisons where it’s less than 10%.
MacNamara’s 100,000 idiots programme during Vietnam War wasn’t a success, so the next best thing for them is to institute the programme domestically and with intended results.
The idiots here are the ICE agents.
10-to-1 they had no idea what to do when a Canadian citizen showed up at the Mexican borderder.
The real scary shit is in the last line:
After her release, Mooney credited media attention and her support network for securing her freedom.
How many people don’t have that luxury?
Like, not every lawful immigrant is a C-list actress best known for an American Pie spinoff that didn’t even have Stiffler. Surely several are falling through the cracks.
This has got me concerned that a statistically significant number of people who don’t have that kind of reach are just…disappearing…
When this is happening to even the beautiful white women, you know shit’s a thousand times worse for BIPOC… I know that we had issues with immigration during previous administrations, but they were nothing compared to this vile treatment.
Those people have been storing up their hatred for 150 years, passing to each new generation. Only way to combat it is to eradicate it at the source
Try being a federal employee lol.
Hey man, what’s with the 88? You do know what that is tied to right?
Some people were born in 1988, also.
And not many of them utlize it in a screen name.
It’s just a number. You can make it out to be whatever you want but it’s literally just the year I was born. I guess we should crucify every person born in 88. What an idiot.
Oh so just unpleasant then.
sue.
They’re ignoring the courts. What will suing do when there’s nobody enforcing the ruling when you “win”?
You can sue for false imprisonment and other stuff I’m sure. Shouldn’t be too hard to win in California, especially if her green card was valid when she was taken.
Okay. Say you do that and you win.
What next? California can’t make them pay you damages.
You could get state or federal payments. But the main purpose is to get it in the news
Who’s gonna make them pay you?
The rest of the government isn’t though
If the executiv branch doesn’t cooperate, that’s the end of it.
The Courts power ultimately means nothing is the executive branch doesn’t execute.
Sue? Make red the color of year.
this. the system is broken. the DOJ is owned. trump et al are above the law. they knew going in that the entire charade only operates under the threat of violence and they currently have a monopoly on that. if you don’t have stock in violence, you don’t have a place at the table. we all need to buy some stock.
I’m confused, did she even try to cross the border or was she just there to renew her visa? Why not just send her back for fuck’s sake?
Edit:
Okay, if I understood it correctly, she was already in the US and had a valid visa, which was about to expire. Her lawyer told her to go to the border to renew it, and as she was working in LA, that was the nearest border crossing. This makes it even more insane.Absolutely. They’re handling scenarios this way to scare people and demonstrate cruelty.
“Come to the US, the land of the fuck you.”
Precisely.
That’s a good way for cruelty to come back around. Abuse a hundred thousand people and see if a few don’t snap and take it out on those responsible. Seems like domestic terrorism may not be just a right wing hobby for too much longer. Bet authorities suddenly take it more seriously if that does happen.
They’re banking on that happening so they can cry terrorism and swing emergency powers into full effect in response. Then they won’t even have to detain you they can just shoot you on the spot. They’re soft rolling the ethnic cleansing right now but if people start fighting back against it they’ll probably stomp the accelerator on it.
It tracks. They captured a German tourist with a valid passport and held her for over a month instead of sending her back. The cruelty is the point.
And a message
Seriously , that’s what happened? I was going to say, the article wasn’t clear on whether there was actually a problem but it sounds like not
Officials allegedly told her she was “unprofessional because I didn’t have a proper letterhead” on her paperwork.
How dare her paperwork not wear a suit!
You have to say pwease and tank you, missus moodey
Such a punchable face.
Like. It wouldn’t even hurt your hand. Look at the fluffy thing.
These stories make me wish people hadn’t reelected Bush and Obama when both made it very clear they were supportive of fascist policies like torture, extraordinary rendition, drone bombings without accountability, permanent imprisonment, etc.
None of this is new. It’s just louder now.
no this is very new…
No, it’s just at home now. The CIA has been torturing people in black sites around the globe for decades now. If anything, those conditions were far worse, since it doesn’t seem like any migrants detained are getting waterboarded yet.
But not its own citizens. I’m aware of US war crimes and torture. I was never aware of camps holding legal immigrants
I guess you just slept through the War on Terror, then.
your original statement is correct, but i feel the need to speak up on behalf of obama.
the terrorist kill list was a little shady, but it was effective (although messy).
we really need to embrace the power of martial force for good. the good guys can’t always take the high road. sometimes there is no better solution than to just apply a hammer.
Respectfully, Obama literally ordered the assassination of an American citizen.
Obama was an essential part of normalizing these extra-legal power grabs and the authoritarian state, and this is partly why Trump is able to get away with similar crimes.
You’re more respectful then the person you are responding to deserves.
People are less likely to listen to your point of view if you don’t approach them in good faith. I wish Democrats would learn this lesson.
do i really need to explain the nuance of this to you?
was it idealistically right? no. was it acceptable collateral damage in war? yes.
we firebombed entire civilian cities in WWII and we were the good guys. perspective is important.
EDIT: i do agree with you about how we have allowed the power of the executive branch to expand to a point that is now a crisis, but i will still defend obama as a president.
You can defend him all you like, I voted for him too but he’s still part of the problem
I don’t think bombing campaigns in WWII are comparable to a president ordering illegal assassinations of American citizens by fiat.
You can justify it to yourself if you like, but it’s not an opinion that these crimes have normalized the activities of Donald Trump. (Though it was a 20+ year process that, IMHO, started with George W. Bush and 9/11)
i’m not disagreeing with you. i’m just trying to bring some nuance to some of the statements that have been made.
and you keep saying that is was an authorized assassination, which is not true. it was collateral damage.
the terrorist kill list was a little shady, but it was effective
This is “effective” as well. For Musk/Trump.
Doesn’t make it okay.
it’s okay when the good guys do it. it’s not ok when our enemies do it. goose and gander comparisons should never be made if it justifies your opposition. i’m just trying to get people to understand how wars work. “by any means necessary” is what it takes to win. if the victory defeats an existential threat to humanity, then whatever it took to do it was justified.
Everyone thinks they’re the good guys. The people of the US cast GW Bush, then Obama, now Trump in the good guy seat and these tools were on the table.
The whole problem with your philosophy of “the ends justify the means” is that that way of thinking is in itself an existential threat to humanity.
of course everyone thinks they’re the good guys. no one thinks they’re the villain, but you and i know who the good guys are, right? no? well, you can end up in a pile with the rest of my enemies.
you don’t get it, do you? whoever wins the war we are in gets to decide who the good guys were. there is no compromise. there never could be. it’s always been a war. and it will be over when one side capitulates. don’t be on the losing team.
you think the other side won’t do whatever it takes to win? they’re doing it now. do you want them to win? then you need to be prepared to do whatever it takes to stop them. THIS IS HOW WARS WORK. don’t think we’re in one? you’re delusional.
That’s horseshit used to justify sweeping your mistakes under the rug
the point is that it takes messy solutions sometimes. we need to come to peace with that if we want to truly resist the current administration. you can’t stay on your high horse forever if you want to survive.
Those “messy solutions” are real convenient for White America I’ve noticed. I wonder how willing you’d be to accept “collateral damage” if it was your hospitals and weddings getting bombed.
This is liberal garbage and a huge part of the reason America is so hated.
It’s the same thing, only the leopards have turned around and started eating a different set of faces.
I’ve never heard stories of people with green cards getting sent to camp prisons though before.
Like I said. Same leopards. Green card holders just didn’t think leopards would eat their faces.
The US has had these internationally illegal and abusive practices for a long time now. It has a whole infrastructure for it.
Google torture under George Bush.
Which one?
One of the comments compared US prisons to Dachau, reason has fled and fallen out of a high window
I didn’t see the comment, but my guess is they were likely referring to Gitmo or El Nuevo Chipote.
Do you think these prisoners are being sent outside the country so they can be treated humanely?
They were not in fact referencing Gitmo, they were talking about other prisons
I think I’ve figured out what timeline we’re in.
I don’t recognize this one. What’s it from?
The original Fallout intro. Worth seeing the whole thing.
Thanks!
At this point the bombs can only bring improvements.
At least the writing will get decent for about 80 years.
