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    Something I’m confused about: if Republicans believe government policy should be based on Christian values, why are they against government programs helping the poor?

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        Some people like the Kodiak or Polar bears. Me, I like my Browning Bears with .50 BMG (Big Mean Grizzly)

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    Sooner forget about the separation of his head from his shoulders but that ain’t happening either

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    well he does also want to become pope. maybe he wants to multi class but what we really wish is if he dual classed.

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    A common theme of MAGA is inventing problems that they can solve.

    The idea that Christianity in the US is under threat and needs additional protections, is some epic persecution complex.

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      I had an old boss tell me that Christians are the most persecuted people on earth. They truly believe it and get off on it. All while existing in a country where you almost have to be Christian or at least Jewish to be elected to national office. It’s pure mass delusion propaganda.

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      A common theme of MAGA is inventing problems that they can solve

      That they can pretend to solve.

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    It’s incredible that the U.S. is having this discussion again. What’s the point—bringing creationism back to schools or stoning prostitutes?

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      The Christian Right wants to make Christianity supreme and use it as the basis to take away rights of minorities including Muslims and LGBT. They want this as cover to take away sex ed and ban pornography and rap music and a long list of other stuff. Project 2025 laid it out pretty explicitly.

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      GOP politics and agenda are all about control. And religion historically has always been a means of control. Add a more aggressive form of indoctrination instead of education in schools so that you have young people just smart enough to profitable but brainwashed into not being free thinkers who go tribal against anyone against their tribe. Once you have people replacing morality with religion you can alter that religion to match what ever you want as a means of control.

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      The point is replacing a somewhat transparent legal system with an arbitrary mess which makes everyone that isn’t exactly on the politically desired line feel uneasy all the time due to uncertainty of state actions.

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        • Cruisin’ down the center of a two way street
        • Wonderin’ who is really in the driver’s seat
        • Mindin’ my business along comes big brother
        • Says, “Son, you better get on one side or the other.
        • I’m out on the border, I’m walkin’ the line
        • Don’t you tell me 'bout your law and order
        • I’m try’n’ to change this water to wine.
        • After a hard day, I’m safe at home
        • Foolin’ with my baby on the telephone
        • Out of nowhere somebody cuts in
        • Says, “Hmm, you in some trouble boy, we know where you’ve been.”
        • I’m out on the border
        • I thought this was a private line
        • Don’t you tell me 'bout your law and order
        • I’m try’n’ to change this water to wine
        • Never mind your name, just give us your number
        • Never mind your face, just show us your card
        • And we wanna know whose wing are you under
        • You better step to the right or we can make it hard
        • I’m stuck on the border
        • All I wanted was some peace of mind
        • Don’t you tell me 'bout your law and order
        • I’m try’n’ to change this water to wine
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    Maybe if they bring back the church into politics he will learn who this Jesus guy is who everyone is talking about. Might be surprised that he was a “radical leftist”

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        There’s a pretty radical idea going on in wiccan circles right now that believes the “Jesus” these Christian Nationalists are worshipping is actually something called an egregore. Now, an egregore is a non-physical entity or “thought form”, created by the shared beliefs, emotions, and intentions of a group. What’s more, I’ve met people who claim to have interacted with this being.They claim that it truly believes it is Christ and wants you to believe it, too. It desperately wants into Heaven, and it is vain, and narcissistic, and ugly. It butters you up with false flattery, empty promises and lies, and, if the true spirit of Christ is with you, it calls that spirit Satan. If you recognize it for what it is, instantly like a toxic person it flips to anger and threats to scare you into getting it to believe.

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          Any god is an egregore, like any other thought or believe is. Santa, the black man, Allah, these are all egregore with more or less power according to the mental strength and energy of the believers which are part of these groups. Of course, as anything created by humans, egregore are fallible and presents various “defects” in their behaviours and actions. The most important thing is to always remember that egregores, being a byproduct of human though, are and always will be much less powerful than any human being. Take Yahweh or Allah and place it in front of an infant, they won’t be able to do shit as the child will be uneffected by the social knowledge about these entities and thus will be receptive to their true form, which is one of ethereal beings having no control on the physical world. Anything they can do they do because we give them the power to do so, once we realise they are no more powerful than a breeze through the leaves their power crumble and they return to be what they truly are, invisible and intangible leeches praying on our mental energy.

          If you believe in spiritual teachings of course, otherwise please continue not believing in such things and cussing against god and/or the modern American Christian nationalist faith, the effect will be the same

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          I’ve always been interested in jungian archetypical symbology. It’s really amazing that these characteristics of humanity show up again and again as if it comes from the same well. I don’t know anything about egregore but I’ll have to certainly look into it. This is an interesting take, thanks.

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      He means American evangelist Christianity. Which is just capitalism with god. They are more interested on social control of masses and collecting tithe than any actual idealism.

      • It’s far bigger than tithe. The article explains that the white house god office is run by someone who will take $1000 payments to send angels to people. They brought on that fucking moron Ben Carson too, which makes me think this is more about persecution if gay and transgender people than anything else. Other than that they’re just making sure all the grifters (religious and MAGA) on the same team.

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    All of this is spelled out in project 2025. If you want to know what’s coming next, just look at their website.

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      Just wait until they start banning porn. It’s already started in some states tbh.

      Canada almost had the same thing happen, but thankfully Poilievre didn’t win PM, and even lost his seat too as a bonus.

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          He’s in an intra-party dust up with Doug Ford, brother of the infamous crack smoking Toronto Mayor.

          So its possible we’ll get a porn ban if Poilievre comes out ahead. But we could alternatively get pole dancing as an elective and weed in the school cafeterias.

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          What’s the rationale behind this? Is it just pandering to religious freaks, or something else?

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            My guess is that it’s a step towards banning anything considered “sexual” or “deviant.” I.e., anything to do with LGBTQ people, sex ed, educating women about their bodies and rights, etc. Anything that the white patriarchy dislikes while also making it easier to subjugate the population through ignorance and propaganda.

            • Which leads to uninformed teenagers becoming pregnant, being forced to carry the child, and being stuck in poverty and ignorance for the rest of their lives as a result. This gives us uneducated workers and soldiers.

              Every live baby is a potential dead soldier. And the more education is destroyed the more popular that path will be.

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              My guess is that it’s a step towards banning anything considered “sexual” or “deviant.”

              Which is just a step toward banning anything that doesn’t “glorify our dear leader.”

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            Is it just pandering to religious freaks,

            That and increasing their authorization grip on society.

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      I’ve been warning people about the setup to martial law. That’s the final step of project 2025 that officially and completely destroys democracy. There will be no going back and no voting in the future. I keep being called an alarmist, but I was called an alarmist in late 2015 when he announced his run. It’s also perfectly spelled out and they’ve been doing every project 2025 has step by step.

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    there’s a lot going on in this article, but this part in particular is… uhh … a really special form of religious virtue…

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      I wish had no scruples because then I could sell people angels for $1,000

      I love how the most devout Christians are always always complete shitheads

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        Given the shitheads who’d actually buy that crap, I’d say this is one group of people to scam the shit out of without fear of compromising one’s scruples.

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            They’re going to send their money off to scammers anyway. Might as well redirect it somewhere were it won’t be used by straight up evil people doing straight up evil shit.

            I’m also not sure how much I believe in their “victim” status. I was raised in a conservative Southern Baptist household in Mississippi, and I figured out that stuff was bullshit after a few Sunday School sessions.

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              I figured out that church was bullshit at a young age too. I was raised in West Virginia in shitty schools. We were still victims, even though we had the luck of being born perceptive enough to limit our victimization. Imagine if all the wasted hours we spent in school and church, we were learning instead.

              I had a science teacher in fifth grade who was a preacher as well. When we got to evolution all he had to say was “If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys, ever think about that?” He refused to teach the material. We skipped it.

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                Ugh, I had a biology teacher who was very similar. We briefly went through what the textbook had to say on evolution, then spent the next week or so watching stupid videos of this nutjob ranting about how current species with symbiotic relationships couldn’t have evolved separately or some drivel. Knowing what I know now about my rights as a student in a public school, I wish I could go back just for the opportunity to tell him I’d be doing my own independent study time in the library during his class periods while he was showing his blatantly illegal proselytizing propaganda.

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      Easy to forget that Bush and Reagan also had these Faith Based Initiative and religious themed cabinet positions. And they were also primarily about funneling state money to religious demagogues. And then Clinton/Obama kept them around because they didn’t want to offend the religious extremists.

      The large network of Crisis Intervention Centers that effectively exist to abuse young people with poor grades, substance abuse issues, and non-conforming gender/sexual preferences were all originally bankrolled by Reagan/Bush Era pilot programs and church kickbacks.

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      Only a matter of time until he declares himself Holy Roman Emperor. And silly me was under the impression, he’s trying to emulate an entirely different era of German history.

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      Leaning into grifting. Like always. He is just dipping into the Christian side of the grift.

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    The final form of conservative regimes always resorts to imposing religion and rigid moral codes in order to suffocate any form of dissent. Conservatives have been painting themselves as the “rebels” in their manufactured culture wars and the warriors of freeze peach, but in the end it always funnels back to this: Bible authoritarianism. They will use this argument for push for more censorship, information control, stripping away rights and oppressing every community they deem against their dogmas. The writing has been on the wall for a decade now.

    I am hoping that America’s new implementation of this “Christian state” proves to be grotesque enough to serve as a warning for the rest of the world that even had the fleeting thought of going down this route. And I while am not very hopeful for Americans, I wish they find the strength to resist and revolt against this movement.

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      Bible authoritarianism.

      Based on one very specific “interpretation” of the Bible that nobody is allowed to argue against.

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        We are going to be required to interpret the bible as justifying conservative power hierarchies, which requires ignoring surface level interpretations of most of the book.

        The fascists have done a damn fine job of consolidating power in the church by grossing out most of the leftists into not attending, now the physical place designated for moral and ethical debate and community organization in society is dominated by the right.

        If you are a self proclaimed leftist in America i implore you to get your butt into a church pew and integrate with their community, only tithe if you are confident the money is serving the community, and lead everywhere you can.

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      Only if you care about the constitution, freedom, and/or democracy. It’s very clear MAGA does not care about any of that so here we are.