• grue@lemmy.world
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    Communes w/ no real government or class structure

    Yeah, that’s what upper-class Hobbits like the Bagginses want you to think.

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    Just as with the Ferengi in Star Trek, actual Humanity aligns far more with Orcs than it does in universe humanity.

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      Don’t you slander the ferengi like that! Their economic system is mega fucked, but it is at least honest about that and consistent.

      They have a specific code of (business) conduct they for the most part always adhere to, and no ferengi will cry foul when someone else fucks them over as long as it’s done according to the rules.

      And as Quark points out in that one episode, we did and do a bunch of barbaric things the ferengi never did because they wouldn’t go that far, like slavery and genocide.

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        The Ferengi totally do slavery, they just lie to themselves about indentured servitude and jobs that pay less than a living wage being not-slavery.

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        They say they don’t do slavery but hen you hear how they regard feeeeemales

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          That’s the fun mental trick slavers have used since slavery has existed:

          “Slavery can’t be bad if you don’t consider the class of people you enslave to be people at all.”

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          that’s not really slavery, since the feeeemales aren’t/weren’t allowed to work outside of the household

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      Hobbits lived in feudalism

      Feudalism is when free individuals elect a central magistrate with little real power beyond conflict resolution, and the more free individuals there are, the more feudal it is.

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    Hear me out. Dwarves are actually communists and not serfs in an absolute primogeniture monarchy. Here is how and why: Once the dwarven guilds/unions had distributed the wealth produced by dwarven labour evenly among the dwarves, they realized they were already in a post scarcity utopia. Now, they started diggy digging just for fun and named one person king as a joke so they had an excuse to forge exquisite regalia, coins and other stuff. At some point they just started putting it in a hole so they could make space for new creations.

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        Yes, it’s common in most English speaking countries, but Samwise is literally an employee of the Shire Baggins.

        The Gamgees are of a lower social class than the Baggins. Samwise’ father, The Old Gaffer, also worked at Bag End. Frodo has generational wealth, not just from Bilbos adventure with the Dragon, but his Mother was well-to-do also. Bilbo and Frodo had servants, groundskeepers, and housekeepers. That doesn’t even include the party staff they hired on.

        He also calls himself “your Sam”, and Frodo is called his master even when the narrator is speaking:

        he had stuck to his master all the way; that was what he had chiefly come for, and he would still stick to him. His master would not go to Mordor alone.

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        It’s still used (even in the US) by older people for boys not yet of age. My grandma, who died in 2009 and would have been 103 this April, would send me birthday cards addressed to “Master [root_beer]” when I was a kid.

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    Definitely “elves”. As an east coast educated elitist snob, I do believe I know what’s best for those orcs and dwarves in the red states