• SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      351·
      4 months ago

      I feel like history repeats yet again. How many times have people called for not trusting big corporations, just for people saying “give them a chance!”, and then to regret it later?

  • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    721·
    4 months ago

    Real talk, can anyone explain to me why exactly Meta/FB pander to the right this hard? Are the ad dollars/engagement that good?

      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zipEnglish
        48·
        4 months ago

        Ding ding ding.

        He was one of Facebooks first investors.

        Also a good friend of Elon. The dude who proclaimed “Fuck Zuck!” as he bought Twitter.

        Thiel got his fortune from PayPal. Along with Musk.

        Who knew 20 years ago that the nerds who made bank on the dotcom bubble would grow up to be the evil cabal taking over the world?

        • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
          23·
          4 months ago

          They were never the nerds though. They were never the ones actually implementing anything, Zuckerberg is probably the most talented out of all of them, they were always just the ones swinging the cash around.

          • Tyfud@lemmy.worldEnglish
            10·
            4 months ago

            And Zuck used php, literally the worst language known to mankind. It is because of Facebook that php hasn’t died the death we were promised.

            • msage@programming.devEnglish
              2·
              4 months ago

              PHP was reborn in the 7th version, and it still works very well.

              And it’s Wordpress’ fault, too.

              • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
                4·
                4 months ago

                If I ever gain access to a time machine I’m not doing shit to Hitler but I will go back in time and wipe out whoever developed bloody WordPress.

    • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)@badatbeing.socialEnglish
      29·
      4 months ago

      You can sell more to people out of fear than people just going about their day/night. The Right is all about selling fear (immigrants/liberals/pedophiles/space lasers/etc.) and then ask for “donations” to help the same folks making this shit up to help line their pockets and looked down on these people as less than. Trump is currently the Rights king, and there isn’t a group he has more distain and disgust for than his own base.

    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.mlEnglish
      6·
      4 months ago

      Capitalism in decay results in the bourgeoisie and petite bourgeoisie collaborating, in an effort to oppress the out group and forcibly “turn the clock back.” It’s fascism playing out yet again.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      6·
      4 months ago

      He definitely looks like a Dustin doesn’t he? He definitely looks like the sort of person that would have a podcast and as a result of that podcast is currently been sued by 40 different people.

  • aseriesoftubes@lemmy.worldEnglish
    372·
    4 months ago

    That guy even looks like a right-wing chud. I bet he’s got some runes tattooed somewhere on his person.

  • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.eeEnglish
    19·
    4 months ago

    This is exactly what Threads users deserve. When the Twitter Exodus was in full-swing we told them to go to Mastodon (or even Bluesky for fuck’s sake) instead of jumping from billionaire to billionaire looking for a social media fix.

    They told us it was just personal preference and that platform choice wasn’t a big deal. They told us it was easier with their friends and families already on Facebook. They complained that Mastodon URLs (exactly like email) were too hard for their tender little brains.

    And now they’re on a network overseen by Christofacist tyrants with a technofeudalist billionaire hellbent on destroying the world.

    Imagine ending up in that situation in just one short year after leaving X because of Musk. Every last one of them backed the wrong horse, and we can safely call it stupidity. Facebook is basically responsible for Trump, it’s not like we didn’t already know they were the villains.

  • masquenox@lemmy.worldEnglish
    223·
    4 months ago

    Oh look… the capitalists liberals have been bending over backwards for so many decades is happily marching in lock-step with fascists - again.

    If only someone could have predicted this!

  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    281·
    4 months ago

    With billions of dollars potentially at stake and Trump currently at 60% to win the election, I’d be trying to get on these guys’ good side too.

    • Hegar@fedia.io
      54·
      4 months ago

      Zuck has had staunch republican assets on the board and at the highest levels of the company for ages. They’ve boosted fascist content and pushed outright lies on behalf of trump for almost 10 years now.

      FB doesn’t need to get on the good side of the far right, they’re already on the same side.

    • mosiacmango@lemm.eeEnglish
      38·
      4 months ago

      60% of what? No poll puts him at that level.

      You the guy who thinks betting websites decide elections?

      • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.mlEnglish
        213·
        4 months ago

        Betting odds are like, the most accurate way to determine outcome? Even for sports.

        If polls were accurate, anyone with a bit of risk tolerance could make bank betting against Trump. But people doing stats in swing states, campaign finances, etc seem to be in alignment (again, if they weren’t in alignment, there would be money to be made)

        • mosiacmango@lemm.eeEnglish
          3·
          4 months ago

          From my reading, these betting markets have recently tracked as well as 538 long term, so that’s a decent outcome. I wonder if they just swing to vendors like 538 to look for “an inside track” to bet against overall, but it’s a small system so it’s not clear.

          The issues they have are being largely illegal or grey market in the US, which limits who will interact with them. There very well could be experts who could “make money” that won’t do so because of their current status.

          They also appear to be very erratic in the short term, the same way a lot of sports betting and stock gambling is. Single events can send the numbers into tailspins. We’ve had some pretty intense recent events, so I’m not exactly confident in their choices.

          I’d say lastly that they are heavily right wing or right wing adjacent spaces. Some people are just there to make money, but others are tossing it away on ideology, especially in these divisive times. Markets aren’t always rational actors, they just tend to be in aggregate.

        • mosiacmango@lemm.eeEnglish
          262·
          4 months ago

          So yes, you think gamblers decide elections.

          I think I asked you this last time you brought this up and you didn’t reply. What were Biden’s odds of winning in 2020 on these same websites at 3 months out?

          • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            318·
            4 months ago

            Obviously gamblers don’t decide elections but they do a pretty good job predicting election outcomes.

            I don’t think I’m the same guy you had that discussion with (or if I am, I have no memory of it). Anyway, Polymarket (which I trust more) appears to have no history for resolved markets (as far as I can tell) and PredictIt (which is currently more optimistic about Harris than Polymarket) only shows 9/20/20 at the earliest (at which time it was Biden 57, Trump 46, Harris 4). I’m not sure what you’re getting at with this question.

            Note: Yes, PredictIt didn’t add up to 100%. In theory that means you could have made money off of it risk-free but in practice it has a lot of overhead which prevents it from being an efficient market.

    • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.eeEnglish
      12·
      4 months ago

      In case you were wondering what kind of person in Nazi Germany turned in their Jewish neighbors to the Gestapo, it’s this guy right here.

      There’s no functional difference between “I will support the Nazis if they win” and “I am a Nazi”. Both are an equal threat, and both deserve the same historical solution for beating Nazis.

    • EnderWiggin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      121·
      4 months ago

      at 60% to win the election

      LOL what? There is barely any polling out on Harris v. Trump, and the one’s that have circulated are a dead heat at +/-2 in either direction. I’m personally waiting on Nate Silver’s first real forecast tomorrow.

      • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        24·
        4 months ago

        His odds are about the same as Polymarket’s.

        (Sorry Nate, I know this is paywalled but winning an argument is more important than your livelihood.)

          • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            I think the original predictions were accurate given the information available at the time, but Harris has been unexpectedly successful. I am pleasant surprised.

        • EnderWiggin@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          3 months ago

          Hey fair enough. That’s pretty shocking. Looks like I’m throwing some money down on this one. I think these odds are insane, and I’ll gladly take them.

          Edit: So far that money is looking well spent. As expected, the odds have completely flipped.

        • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.eeEnglish
          31·
          4 months ago

          I think you’re confused, Nate Silver is famously one of the worst political analysts, and is openly ridiculed for saying stupid shit like you are while making bad calls. Not surprising that you didn’t understand that “as reliable as Nate Silver” was an insult.

          Wherever you get your polling data from doesn’t matter because polls don’t actually matter. You’re just a wonk who thinks getting polling data from illegal gambling operations makes you special.