• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    8 days ago

    the left was officially ordered to hate her

    Who ordered that? How was that order communicated?

    If the left is that easy to order around, why didn’t the Democrats just order them to vote for her?

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      8 days ago

      “Harris supports genocide so you shouldn’t vote” was like shooting fish in a barrel. That it folded perfectly into russia’s goals for the election is pure coincidence.

      If the left is that easy to order around, why didn’t the Democrats just order them to vote for her?

      Democrats suck at messaging. See Democratic consultants for more information.

      • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        7 days ago

        Did Russia ask Kamala to support genocide?

        Just waving every failure in US politics as a Russian master-stroke plot is really getting old. You have the largest surveillance tech in the whole wide world, show proof or GTFO with your conspiracies.

        Obligatory Fuck Russia and Putin.

        Slava Ukraini!

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      So here’s a perfect example of what I’m talking about:

      If you had to pick one most damning issue that was the place where she made it plain who she was last year, that lost her support, what would it be? What do you think the biggest one was, if you had to pick one?

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          Happy to. You first though. If you had to pick the biggest most damning issue where she made it plain who she was, what would it be?

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            8 days ago

            Speaking as someone who’s not American, I lost hope for her campaign when she made a show of getting endorsements from some pretty reprehensible Republicans (including but not limited to Dick Cheney).

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              7 days ago

              I really would be happy to. I need them to answer my question first, though, in order to make the point that I want to make. Instead they evaporated, which means I don’t owe them continuation of the conversation with the blank void they’ve left in their absence.

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                7 days ago

                You know your point is bad because you keep having to play these tedious “teehee you must answer my questions three!” Bullshit games rather than just stating it.

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                7 days ago

                If you’re happy to answer, then simply answer. You don’t need the conversation to proceed entirely on your terms - you want it to. You could easily respond to their questions first and then pose your own to make your point. Your point may even carry more weight if they refuse to answer after you’ve just done so.

                Their choice not to address your question immediately after you declined to answer theirs isn’t unreasonable. Answering their question wouldn’t have prevented you from making your point; if it did, then perhaps it wasn’t a particularly strong point to begin with.

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                  You don’t need the conversation to proceed entirely on your terms - you want it to.

                  I’m not the one who dipped from it as soon as I got something that wasn’t entirely on my terms.

                  I’m done talking about this lol

      • PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I’d say her attitude towards the Palestinian protesters at her rally in Detroit was the last straw for me. It was a misstep that may have been due to pressures of running a rushed campaign and the stress of detractors at every stop, but to carry on and at no point express common goals with the protesters showed her hand well enough for me.