• Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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    Chickenpox isn’t quite as bad as some of the other viruses but Shingles is horrid and you can only get shingles if you’ve had chickenpox which is more that enough reason to vaccinate your children. All I can wish on her is chronic chickenpox with exposure on her face and scalp.

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      It’s awful as an adult, though. I got it when I was older and ended up in the hospital when I complained to my parents about how the walls had started melting. I had a raging fever and pneumonia.

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      I have a older relative whose shingles affected his nervous system and it led to encephalitis.

      I wonder if she has natural remedies for that.

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    I didn’t get chicken pox until I was a Freshman in high school. It fucking sucked and I missed a lot of wrestling season because of it.

    One of my biggest regrets is that I didn’t ask to be vaccinated. Sure that’s kinda my parents’ fault but I never asked about it.

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    Why would it being acceptable 30 years ago mean anything at all in this context? Who fucking cares what was acceptable 30 years ago?

    Science progresses. We understand things more over time. That’s how it works.

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      It’s even worse than this. From Wikipedia:

      The chickenpox vaccine first became commercially available in 1984.[10] It was first licensed for use in the US by Merck, under the brand name Varivax, in 1995.

      So in a way it being acceptable 30 years ago does mean something. Not what the author thought though.

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      Lmdao can you even do your own research? Sience goes counter upside in a clock by three west direction, not forwards.

      And vaccines are full of tiny bees that tell the government whenever you masturbate. Do you WANT masturbation bees? Pffffffff

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    So drink uranium water, put lead in your car and fill your walls with asbestos.

    A lot of things where normal

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    I am currently in the middle of my second round of shingles. I have extreme pain from my right knee, up through my groin, and over my buttock, and to the middle of my chest on the right side. Any touch, including my underwear, clothes, and bed sheets is very painful. Putting my underwear on and taking it off is agony.

    I am contagious so I can’t go anywhere near children or the immune compromised.

    Fortunately I have access to modern medicine and got a prescription for famcyclovir for the shingles and pregabalin for the nerve pain.

    Seriously, get your children vaccinated. If you haven’t had chicken pox get yourself vaccinated. If you had chicken pox get the shingles vaccine. If you got the old shingles vaccine get the new shingles vaccine, it’s better.

    And, most important of all, fuck the antivaxers.

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      Yeah, thanks to my mom being an anti-vaccer I’m now stuck with shingles for life too. Every ten years it’ll crop up again, I’ve been told. No way to get rid of it once you have it. It’ll just hang out in your nerve ends, dormant, and occasionally wake up.

      My first bout of shingles was two years ago. Here in Denmark it’s called “helvedild”, literally translated to “hellfire”, an apt name.

      Thanks mom.

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        Do you have access to famcyclovir? If you begin treatment within 72 hours of the onset of symptoms it can stop the outbreak quickly and prevents the postherpatic neuralgia that sometimes happens in older people.

        During my first outbreak the doctor said he was going to prescribe acyclovir and that the rash would spread to cover half of my body including my eyes, nose, mouth, genitals, and anus. Fun. I asked what would happen if I didn’t take the acyclovir. He said, “The same thing.” So the acyclovir does nothing. I asked him to prescribe famcyclovir. He said it was much more expensive than acyclovir but he would prescribe it if I wanted. It cost $200 for the treatment but the blisters didn’t spread from the first small patch on my right hip and dried up within a couple of days. Why the hell would I take acyclovir if it does nothing if famcyclovir is available.

        This time around the doctor just wrote me the prescription for famcyclovir. I’ve taken 3 doses so far and the blisters on my thigh seem reduced.

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          I think I was actually prescribed Famcyclovir. Scary stuff that warned about the potential of peeing out your liver and kidneys, but the alternative is much worse.

          I started taking those pills within 24 hours of my apparent shingles outbreak. The pain was so bad I couldn’t sleep and I cried. On medication it already started to lessen. I was given a week’s worth of medication, with the doctor telling me that the medication should combat the outbreak in a week. That’s exactly what happened.

          I had the outbreak on one of my nerve bands, going from the middle of my spine, curving around my side, and ending in my crotch.

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        Every ten years it’ll crop up again, I’ve been told

        Not likely. This might be a misplaced average. While Shingles can break out any time your immunity is weakened most people don’t get it until they’re old. For example: four brothers including myself: one got it, once. On the other hand I believe like two out of three elderly will have an outbreak, and repeatedly

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          Yeah, but I got it when I was 29. The doctor told me it’s pretty weird for me so young to get an outbreak, but not unheard of. It was the doctor who also told me I’ll likely get regular outbreaks throughout my life, but yes, she did mention more likely the older I am.

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      Yup, I’ve had shingles twice both on my left shoulder and I’m not even 40. On top of that I’ve developed chronic nerve pain in the same place that was so bad a few years ago i thought it was a heart attack. I’ve got it managed now after trying half a dozen drugs over 2 years until i found one that worked with minimal side effects.

      If all that could have been avoided with a vaccine when i was a kid, I’d hate my parents if they didn’t get it for me.

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      Annoyingly, where I live, they won’t let you have the shingles vaccine until age 50 for… reasons, I guess?

      But you better believe it’s one of the items on my to do list for my 50th birthday week.

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        I’m going to get the fucking vaccine as soon as I can after I’m done with this round. Two rounds of the shingles is uncommon, three is rare, but I’m not going to take the chance.

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        It’s a look at the risk. Over 50 you’re much more likely to have an outbreak and you’re much more likely to have difficulty recovering.

        I would hope they also look at other risks, such as having an actual outbreak

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    Chicken pox vaccine is a relatively recent invention. Before vaccination we knew that chicken pox was bad in kids but very bad in adults so better to get it as a kid if you had to get it at all. The vaccine changes the equation and not being able to evaluate that is a sign of stupidity. The vitriol from other parents is because she is hurting kids because she’s stupid.

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    By the way, even if you don’t remember if you got smallpox as a child, vaccinate now against shingles!

    Yes, there is a vaccine and based on people who have shingles, you really don’t want to get it.

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      Had chicken pox when I was young and recently had shingles. It was so painful but I got lucky and it was over in about a week. Still visible where it was though. But in general I still think making your children just have chicken pox instead of vaccinating them is a common occurence here in Sweden as the vaccine isn’t part of the normal vaccination plan.

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      I had chicken pox really bad as a kid. I had from the tips of my toes to the top of my head … spots in every part of my body - EVERY PART OF MY BODY! … I even have a few left over scars from that ordeal.

      I’m middle aged now and I had shingles about five years ago and it was horrible. It burns and itches and at the height of the infection it feels like you suffered from third degree burns and the damned skin itches and you keep wanting to touch it.

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        My experience with chicken pox mirrors yours - they were everywhere. I’m approaching middle age (or there, depending on who you ask (👉゚ヮ゚)👉), and I’m hoping it doesn’t happen to me. But I know it’s just hanging out there in my spine… waiting.

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          Get that shingles vaccine asap. My Dad is the most stoic person I know when it comes to sickness and he literally CALLED ME ON THE PHONE howling about how bad it hurt. Don’t be my Dad, y’all.

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          Brought about by stress … I was going through a fairly stressful time with work, travelling to a new place and trying to make ends meet. Keep a good diet, exercise, eat healthy, sleep well and keep the stress down … if you mess any of those up, you’re increasing chances of that infection just creeping up. Like others have said, it’s probably best to just get the shingles vaccine.

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          Get the vaccine when you can. Because you’re right, and depending which nerve path it chooses it can be bad or it can be worse

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      I had chicken pox twice.

      Once the normal variety when I was like 6 or whatever, then when I was like 11 or so I got it again when visiting my grandma who just hosted young kids. It was largely the same, except it had rings around the spots. They did tests and confirmed it was a mutated variety of common chicken pox.

      I’m terrified of shingles outbreaks because I may have two strains lying dormant in my body, but I’m “too young for the shingles vax”

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        Yeah, I’d get the shingles vax in a heartbeat, but I’ve gotta wait another 6 years. Meanwhile I know several people who developed shingles in their forties and have lingering issues from it (particularly ophthalmic). The vaccine needs to be tested and approved for younger adults. But I doubt that’ll happen. They’ll just wait until those of us who got chicken pox as a kid are old enough for the shingles vaccine, and who cares if we get shingles in the meantime!

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          I’ve always wondered if there’s a chance we make the shingles virus extinct, but never looked into whether the chicken pox vaccine prevents it entirely

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      Thank you. I have a friend who went through this as an adult and ended up with nerve damage. A vaccine would have spared him that pain.

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    In other news, measles is spreading in Canada and the US (but only Canada is reporting it)

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    “long-term complications of childhood chicken pox” is one search that they don’t do

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      Profound hole in the “do your own research” theory: not knowing how to do thorough research

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        Even if they get the right search terms, they’ll just keep scrolling till they find an obscure blog with an anecdote from 2 mothers which confirms their existing bias.

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        What do you mean I have to “read a book”? I’ll just find a wellness blog to tell me the thing I want to hear.

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        Or even having the time to do all this research I apparently need to do.

        Not to mention that some research ends up behind pay walls and knowledge barriers.

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    Kate is all 7 of those things. 30 years ago it would have been fine to tell her so. What happened to society?

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    I had chicken pox as a kid. I think the vaccine for it only came out after my youngest sibling was around the age for it, as she is the only one of us that got the vaccination and not the illness itself.

    Fuck this mentality. Nobody deserves to suffer that shit just because you and I had to. You’re supposed to try and give your kids a better experience than you had. Vaccinate your god damn children.

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      I was really young when I got chicken pox, maybe 5 years old? The thing I remember most is getting winter mittens taped to my hands so I couldn’t scratch my butthole until it bled. It was TORTURE. No one should have to suffer like that if they don’t have to.

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        I remember getting two weeks off school, the first week was a little tough but the second week was joy.

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    A colleague got shingles with … 55? He had stroke-like symptoms, i. e. half of his face is drooping, he lost control of one of his eyelids, and his mouth doesn’t close completely anymore.

    What’s the point of giving every virus the chance to thrive?

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    I had chicken pox as a kid and while it wasn’t horrible, I def could’ve done without a lesion appearing both on my dick and the roof of my mouth.

    Anti vaxxers are fucking bonkers

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      I had dick pox too. I remember being like, 9, and dabbing that horrible yellow ointment on my foreskin and shaft. That was my first “I’m too old for this shit” moment

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    We all had it when we were kids. A friend of mine had it really bad and he has pock marks all over his face and body, he was always the handsome one, but after that it changed him and he was never the same again.

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      From then on, always looking down at the ground, brooding, scratching the dirt with his feet, eating bugs, and going crazy for buckets of scraps