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    18 hours ago

    I will now cut back on all social media. Lemmy included as I get a depression from what’s happening in the US. What is painfully obvious is that we Europeans must stop fucking around and federate so that we have a fucking chance wedged in between despots and idiots.

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      Best of luck, wish me good luck on getting out of here before everyone realizes they closed the boarders going OUT as well as IN.

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      The current trend is sadly in the other direction. Fascists are rising to power and the countrys get more separated. More border controllers are happening.

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    This is so. fucked. up. I’m not American (and thank fuck for that), but I’m actually feeling so ill and worried for y’all. I think it’s time for me to block/unfollow any American accounts and news cause shit’s about to get really fucking bleak.

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      11 hours ago

      I’m American. I’m so disappointed in my fellow Americans. And I’d wager around half of us feel similarly disgusted by these results.

      Just know not all of us voted for this fascist. I have been trying to organize more and get my friends to organize against this. Clearly civil disobedience is needed, so I think organizing and donating to organizations that support anti-fascism would help.

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      18 hours ago

      I went on holiday to the USA this summer. We had time, money, had never been and feared/expected the USA to elect Trump again. Looks like I made the right call. Stay strong USA.

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    America is fucked. Ukraine is fucked. The world is fucked. The only glimmer of hope is Trump drops dead before his term is out.

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      18 hours ago

      The issue is that the heritage foundation has put JD vanced to take over for Trump when he dies

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        Which, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, is actually scarier than just Trump. Both are nightmares, Vance is young and wants to make tech CEOs kings

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          That’s the seriously fucked part of all of this… Trump will run his 4 years because the worst of us never die, then the DNC runs the resurrected corpse of Regan to court the moderate vote again, loses in another landslide to Vance, Vance gets 2 terms… By then Musk runs some fiefdom, Bezos runs his own, Zuckerberg run his Hawaiian fiefdom… After that if I’m not dead I’ll make sure I am.

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          14 hours ago

          Of course. He’s bankrolled by Peter Thiel and they make no false claims about it. Dude is a vindictive brat with billions to his name and absolutely 0 shame. He bankrolled Hulk Hogan’s Gawker lawsuit over a grudge.

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        He’s still there today whispering in Trump’s ear. At least if Trump were out of the picture it might derail the presidency and allow some of the weirder weirdos & grifters to be shown the the door. It may also reset republicanism to some degree since they don’t have to care what some narcissist dickhead thinks at any given moment or pursue his vendettas. Also it would be karmic.

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    19 hours ago

    America wasn’t built on just immigrants, it was built upon a certain type of immigrants: opportunists who placed greed above everything else. It shows.

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      The first waves, sure. Once you get to the Irish escaping the famine or the Italians escaping Mussolini, it became more about just survival.

      The OGs were racist as fuck towards them, too.

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    18 hours ago

    Very accurate meme. This is me seeing that the votes between the two candidates are somehow close. This is me seeing how one of the two is even allowed to run at all.

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      I think it’s insane how Democrats keep getting blamed for not picking the right people to run when Trump can seemingly say or do anything at all and not lose a percent of support.

      One of the USA sides has to be perfect and the other can do nothing and it will still be close. Insanity.

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        Because most left wingers are pissy pants babies that don’t understand that compromise is an important part of politics.

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            They’re not to blame. They’ve been convinced by a powerful, wealthy propaganda machine that their identity is more important than their planet, their children’s futures, or their own basic human rights. They were scared, tired, desperate, and when the machine came for them and it felt so good they bought it without checking the receipt. They’ve been tricked into giving away their futures and they are going to suffer for it. They’re stupid, but they’re not evil.

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              That’s bs, it just takes 1 hour of your day to go put a mark on a piece of paper and be done with it…

              Pure laziness and complacency

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                … The voters? We’re talking about the people who cast votes. Not the ones who didn’t vote. Keep up.

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                  10 hours ago

                  The comment above yours was referring to the rest of people who could vote but didn’t, and I thought you said they were not to blame.

                  Anyways it just means most of the US is ok with trump, which is absolutely insane.

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              Your logic completely nullifies human capacity for agency and thus makes no sense whatsoever. Conditioning is important but it does not negate responsibility. Not yet anyway…

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                If my argument nullified the capacity for agency then propaganda could not exist.

                I am saying that propaganda was used to make people vote for Trump. Without that propaganda, they may have voted in their own interests, like protecting bodily autonomy and basic human rights.

                Propaganda is the thing that swayed them.

                Some people are defenseless to it. They never stood a chance against the billion-dollar machine built specifically to win their vote. I feel sorry for them because they were tricked into giving away their futures.

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              Some of them, yes. I have family that fit your description, but I also have family filled with anger and spite. The ones who hold hate I can and will blame for it.

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        Apparently those Mussolini style of speeches and the other 50 or so political suicides did not really matter as much as you would think. No matter the outcome this being this close I think spells the end of the USA as a rational power.

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              Yep, women alone could have put this election in the bag for harris. That confuses me the most out of all of this…

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                Once again, we are shown that people (of any gender, race, or group) can and will vote directly counter to their interests.

                Well that or they like being “grabbed by the pussy” or whatever the hell. Guess I will not kink shame.

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          those Mussolini style of speeches

          Like Kamala at the DNC saying that the US needs to have the MOST LETHAL army in the world, and the crowd bursting into chants of “USA, USA, USA”?

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        Not really. Voter engagement always swings more right than left, the fact the numbers aren’t that far off means it’s likely more than 50%.

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    Im more impressed than terrified. Choosing a guy who cheated on his wife instead of decrimanalised marijuana AND better healthcare. How???

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      It’s all cyclical.
      South America goes socialist and back every other election.

      And now some idiots believe Trump can bring back the haydays when America ruled the world economically. It’s not gonna happen, just even through population math. China India has more people and can build things cheaper, so what are u gonna do?

      It is capitalist greed and moving manufacturing to China - what completely eroded US technological advantage. And now same capitalists in US think solution is moving manufacturing to India. Ha. Can’t make that up.

      Like ok - hes gonna put up some tariffs which is probably right, but this not gonna cancel China manufacturing advantage - they’re just gonna sell their cars to the rest of the world. And just wait till comac comes out full force and cancels out Boeing and Airbus.

      Like the dumbest thing US did - not fixing shit up with Russia. That’s the energy that powers China manufacturing, who even knows if China would be able to compete as they do without Russian energy. But nooo, we need Ukraine hurr durr.

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    I kept trying to tell people that polls and surveys is just astrology for math nerds

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    The national identity of being Canadian over the last while has been every four years wondering if the downstairs neighbors are going to decide to restart up the meth lab they keep tinkering with and bracing for the sounds of domestic violence to resume.

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        People in Canada are delusional and think it can’t happen to us too because we’re the polite maple syrup guys. I’ve seen the projections for Pierre Poilievre. We are in 2015 America, where everybody thinks “people won’t vote for that guy, he obviously sucks”, and they aren’t right.

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        Not saying our shit doesn’t stink but there’s a certain matter of scale to consider. Leastaways we don’t have nukes we can hand over to the psychopath we are looking at voting in.

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      You’ve described exactly how I feel. And of course, the shit down south is affecting us up here, we have our own lunatic conservatives like Doug Ford, Milhouse and Bernier who aspire to be like the GOP.

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        Conservatism is a worldwide problem and they all borrow each other’s notes. It’s not going to be a fun time for us coming up. I can only hope that when the shit hits the fan down there those up here start rethinking their bullshit.

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    Well, if you take a step back and look at the bigger picture, its hard to deny the facts. Its a corrupt system. I know everyone is all calling trump a criminal for this and that, but its like, yea, hi, welcome to America. The crazy thing is the idea that ANY person in high political office is NOT a criminal. You just don’t get that high up in American politics unless you’re playing dirty pool. Theres a million things one can criticize Trump for, but it just makes no sense to use the “criminal” argument unless youve spent your life living under a rock.

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    Yeah its one thing if youre a trump supporter because then you are just a sheep but i actually dont understand whats going on in the head if those who have to think about the decision